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		<title>Comment on Life without words by George Bourgeois</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Bourgeois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see where you are coming from, which is not surprising considering I found this page by googling “life without words”.

I agree that language tends to play a massive role in how we perceive our world, and that our subconscious minds utilize language to a high degree. However, I think it’s possible to have a thought without words, on both the conscious and subconscious levels. I think a lot of it just boils down to how you define a thought. If the word “thought” is already automatically tied to words for you, then under that definition it would obviously be true that we cannot think without words. However, I think the question you’re really meaning to ask is ‘what would the conscious experience be like without thoughts?’. Meditation can help to answer that question. If you or anyone else reading this hasn’t tried it out yet, give it a go! You might have to be persistent though. For me it’s also about imagination. I do all sorts of neat things in my mind that I could never communicate to you.

I agree that language can be limiting but I think it can also be an enabling factor. It’s mostly just a tool for communicating and sharing. Although I’m already kind of contradicting myself (since I already agreed language helps define our reality), I’m just trying to say that I don’t think it’s an intentional conspiracy, nor do I think it would make a good tool for controlling people, because it could backfire easily if the people you were trying to suppress managed to use it to their ends. Despite the fact that practices like book burning or internet censorship limit or distort our perception of our world by controlling language, I still think individuals have more power than they would if they couldn’t use words.

Also, in response to Mariam’s post: you are still basically using words if you go around pairing a new set of random sounds with all the objects you know. Even if you think your newborn words don’t have a map of cognitively associated terms with them, they actually kind of do by a sort of transitive property because your pre-existing language serves to delineate what IS a distinct object, and therefore what needs a new sound. I’m sure it’s a fun exercise and it makes you feel light like you said, but I would suggest that if you really want to free your mind, you have to stop seeing the distinctions among objects somehow. The only way I can think of for doing this is meditation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see where you are coming from, which is not surprising considering I found this page by googling “life without words”.</p>
<p>I agree that language tends to play a massive role in how we perceive our world, and that our subconscious minds utilize language to a high degree. However, I think it’s possible to have a thought without words, on both the conscious and subconscious levels. I think a lot of it just boils down to how you define a thought. If the word “thought” is already automatically tied to words for you, then under that definition it would obviously be true that we cannot think without words. However, I think the question you’re really meaning to ask is ‘what would the conscious experience be like without thoughts?’. Meditation can help to answer that question. If you or anyone else reading this hasn’t tried it out yet, give it a go! You might have to be persistent though. For me it’s also about imagination. I do all sorts of neat things in my mind that I could never communicate to you.</p>
<p>I agree that language can be limiting but I think it can also be an enabling factor. It’s mostly just a tool for communicating and sharing. Although I’m already kind of contradicting myself (since I already agreed language helps define our reality), I’m just trying to say that I don’t think it’s an intentional conspiracy, nor do I think it would make a good tool for controlling people, because it could backfire easily if the people you were trying to suppress managed to use it to their ends. Despite the fact that practices like book burning or internet censorship limit or distort our perception of our world by controlling language, I still think individuals have more power than they would if they couldn’t use words.</p>
<p>Also, in response to Mariam’s post: you are still basically using words if you go around pairing a new set of random sounds with all the objects you know. Even if you think your newborn words don’t have a map of cognitively associated terms with them, they actually kind of do by a sort of transitive property because your pre-existing language serves to delineate what IS a distinct object, and therefore what needs a new sound. I’m sure it’s a fun exercise and it makes you feel light like you said, but I would suggest that if you really want to free your mind, you have to stop seeing the distinctions among objects somehow. The only way I can think of for doing this is meditation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life without words by George Bourgeoisw</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Bourgeoisw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see where you are coming from, which is not surprising considering I found this page by googling &quot;life without words&quot;.

I agree that language tends to play a massive role in how we perceive our world, and that our subconscious minds utilize language to a high degree. However, I think it&#039;s possible to have a thought without words, on both the conscious and subconscious levels. I think a lot of it just boils down to how you define a thought. If the word &quot;thought&quot; is already automatically tied to words for you, then under that definition it would obviously be true that we cannot think without words. However, I think the question you&#039;re really meaning to ask is &#039;what would the conscious experience be like without thoughts?&#039;. Meditation can help to answer that question. If you or anyone else reading this hasn&#039;t tried it out yet, give it a go! You might have to be persistent though. For me it&#039;s also about imagination. I do all sorts of neat things in my mind that I could never communicate to you.

I agree that language can be limiting but I think it can also be an enabling factor. It&#039;s mostly just a tool for communicating and sharing. Although I&#039;m already kind of contradicting myself (since I already agreed language helps define our reality), I&#039;m just trying to say that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an intentional conspiracy, nor do I think it would make a good tool for controlling people, because it could backfire easily if the people you were trying to suppress managed to use it to their ends. Despite the fact that practices like book burning or internet censorship limit or distort our perception of our world by controlling language, I still think individuals have more power than they would if they couldn&#039;t use words.

Also, in response to Mariam&#039;s post: you are still basically using words if you go around pairing a new set of random sounds with all the objects you know. Even if you think your newborn words don&#039;t have a map of cognitively associated terms with them, they actually kind of do by a sort of transitive property because your pre-existing language serves to delineate what IS a distinct object, and therefore what needs a new sound. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s a fun exercise and it makes you feel light like you said, but I would suggest that if you really want to free your mind, you have to stop seeing the distinctions among objects somehow. The only way I can think of for doing this is meditation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see where you are coming from, which is not surprising considering I found this page by googling &#8220;life without words&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree that language tends to play a massive role in how we perceive our world, and that our subconscious minds utilize language to a high degree. However, I think it&#8217;s possible to have a thought without words, on both the conscious and subconscious levels. I think a lot of it just boils down to how you define a thought. If the word &#8220;thought&#8221; is already automatically tied to words for you, then under that definition it would obviously be true that we cannot think without words. However, I think the question you&#8217;re really meaning to ask is &#8216;what would the conscious experience be like without thoughts?&#8217;. Meditation can help to answer that question. If you or anyone else reading this hasn&#8217;t tried it out yet, give it a go! You might have to be persistent though. For me it&#8217;s also about imagination. I do all sorts of neat things in my mind that I could never communicate to you.</p>
<p>I agree that language can be limiting but I think it can also be an enabling factor. It&#8217;s mostly just a tool for communicating and sharing. Although I&#8217;m already kind of contradicting myself (since I already agreed language helps define our reality), I&#8217;m just trying to say that I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an intentional conspiracy, nor do I think it would make a good tool for controlling people, because it could backfire easily if the people you were trying to suppress managed to use it to their ends. Despite the fact that practices like book burning or internet censorship limit or distort our perception of our world by controlling language, I still think individuals have more power than they would if they couldn&#8217;t use words.</p>
<p>Also, in response to Mariam&#8217;s post: you are still basically using words if you go around pairing a new set of random sounds with all the objects you know. Even if you think your newborn words don&#8217;t have a map of cognitively associated terms with them, they actually kind of do by a sort of transitive property because your pre-existing language serves to delineate what IS a distinct object, and therefore what needs a new sound. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a fun exercise and it makes you feel light like you said, but I would suggest that if you really want to free your mind, you have to stop seeing the distinctions among objects somehow. The only way I can think of for doing this is meditation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Don&#8217;t Make a Mountain Out of a Molehill&#8221; by m.ANANDHAKUMAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.ANANDHAKUMAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what  can  you   do   doit.But you  cant   do  it   just  leave it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Life without words by Mariam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use exercises. Go on a Walk and name everything you see just with a sound that makes no sense to you, no meaning.So you watch and have that in your mind that sound. As soon as your mind starts to explain and interpret you stop! Return to use this sound for naming things.  instead of your usual interpreations and thinking - do this when you walk - do it for half an hour every morning - do this for more than two weeks and observe what happens. I am shure you will feel more free and light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use exercises. Go on a Walk and name everything you see just with a sound that makes no sense to you, no meaning.So you watch and have that in your mind that sound. As soon as your mind starts to explain and interpret you stop! Return to use this sound for naming things.  instead of your usual interpreations and thinking &#8211; do this when you walk &#8211; do it for half an hour every morning &#8211; do this for more than two weeks and observe what happens. I am shure you will feel more free and light!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Art VS Literature by Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 04:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all of the abstract arts- there is an expression of emotion. Art is the most primitive and so the most perceptivly available to the public, however it does not have distinction. From &#039;abstract&#039; art to realism, one can discuss a painting, go back to it multiple time and derive something different from it. Therefore there is an immediate reaction. That immediate action is pertinanat in the fact that it took much thinking and time for the artist to express and communicate to the viewer. With written literature, it takes time to fully understand the meaning. We have lives outside, responsibilities to attend to, so if there is a work of literature that requires discipline and interest in the subject, it will sustain us, because it&#039;s become somewhat a part of our lives. So it comes down to which do you prefer to do? Inspire people or interest them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all of the abstract arts- there is an expression of emotion. Art is the most primitive and so the most perceptivly available to the public, however it does not have distinction. From &#8216;abstract&#8217; art to realism, one can discuss a painting, go back to it multiple time and derive something different from it. Therefore there is an immediate reaction. That immediate action is pertinanat in the fact that it took much thinking and time for the artist to express and communicate to the viewer. With written literature, it takes time to fully understand the meaning. We have lives outside, responsibilities to attend to, so if there is a work of literature that requires discipline and interest in the subject, it will sustain us, because it&#8217;s become somewhat a part of our lives. So it comes down to which do you prefer to do? Inspire people or interest them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Smile in the Face of Doubt (SITFOD) by Matthew Askaripour</title>
		<link>http://hardfluff.com/smile-in-the-face-of-doubt-sitfod/comment-page-1/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Askaripour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything has a purpose, but I don&#039;t concern myself with the probability of things. If others do, then that&#039;s good and right for them. Probability is a word, and I choose which words I allow to enhance or hinder my own reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything has a purpose, but I don&#8217;t concern myself with the probability of things. If others do, then that&#8217;s good and right for them. Probability is a word, and I choose which words I allow to enhance or hinder my own reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Smile in the Face of Doubt (SITFOD) by Deana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then would you say nothing has a purpose in life like the &quot;likelihoods&quot; others trust in? Everything exciting that crosses our paths might come off as a new spontaneous experience, but it&#039;s probability that made it available for us in the first place. People make tangible experiences for others because it&#039;s likely to make people make life choices that they haven&#039;t had to make before, but it&#039;s also obvious to see that the ones who doubt &quot;probably&quot; won&#039;t accept something &quot;out of the ordinary&quot;. So who cares about the ones who doubt because you most likely won&#039;t run into them if you share different common interests, and if you do then it&#039;s important to stay content with what you and only you choose to experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then would you say nothing has a purpose in life like the &#8220;likelihoods&#8221; others trust in? Everything exciting that crosses our paths might come off as a new spontaneous experience, but it&#8217;s probability that made it available for us in the first place. People make tangible experiences for others because it&#8217;s likely to make people make life choices that they haven&#8217;t had to make before, but it&#8217;s also obvious to see that the ones who doubt &#8220;probably&#8221; won&#8217;t accept something &#8220;out of the ordinary&#8221;. So who cares about the ones who doubt because you most likely won&#8217;t run into them if you share different common interests, and if you do then it&#8217;s important to stay content with what you and only you choose to experience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Others Through Sesame Oil by Matthew Askaripour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Askaripour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If one sees the world with an open mind, then one is able to find the treasure within the problem itself.&quot; Beautiful and true! I loved the way you wrote that, and your contribution overall. The treasure within the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If one sees the world with an open mind, then one is able to find the treasure within the problem itself.&#8221; Beautiful and true! I loved the way you wrote that, and your contribution overall. The treasure within the problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Others Through Sesame Oil by Matthew Askaripour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Askaripour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully said, Q. What you said about becoming better people is so true. When we force ourselves into uncomfortable situations, we allow ourselves to be vulnerable. This is so hard, yet we are forced to learn so much about ourselves, and the limits that we place on our thoughts, actions, and experiences. Thanks for your contribution, it was real, and I loved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully said, Q. What you said about becoming better people is so true. When we force ourselves into uncomfortable situations, we allow ourselves to be vulnerable. This is so hard, yet we are forced to learn so much about ourselves, and the limits that we place on our thoughts, actions, and experiences. Thanks for your contribution, it was real, and I loved it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Smile in the Face of Doubt (SITFOD) by Matthew Askaripour</title>
		<link>http://hardfluff.com/smile-in-the-face-of-doubt-sitfod/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Askaripour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because I&#039;ve learned to live by the words, &quot;You never know.&quot; I never truly know what will happen from one second to the next. Throughout history, things constantly defy the odds and &quot;probabilities&quot; that others have constructed. Instead of trusting in likelihoods that others have defined, I find comfort in never truly knowing what is going to happen. It also keeps things exciting. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I&#8217;ve learned to live by the words, &#8220;You never know.&#8221; I never truly know what will happen from one second to the next. Throughout history, things constantly defy the odds and &#8220;probabilities&#8221; that others have constructed. Instead of trusting in likelihoods that others have defined, I find comfort in never truly knowing what is going to happen. It also keeps things exciting. <img src='http://hardfluff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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